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For an interesting article on wild camping up in Scotland pop on over to Cameron McNeish’s blog
and read his posting ”Wild Camping In Scotland“. Which discusses being a responsible wild camper, and the current attempts to educate the masses as to what those responsibilities are.
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I did chat with a Snowdonia national park ranger last March (2007) and he was saying that he/they have powers to confiscate kit (tent/sleeping bags/stoves) from people they find wild camping. This is a bit disconcerting. However, he also said they only go that far if people are being irresponsible and implied that they turn a blind eye to those trying to ‘leave no trace’.
Is this true ? Can they take peoples belongings and what is the process
September 17th, 2008 at 11:23 amI recently emailed Aneurin Phillips, chief exec of Snowdonia National Park, on exactly the same topic and got this reply from Barbara Jones, head of the warden and access service, on his behalf:
· The authority is not a significant landowner: only 0.43% of the land area is in NPA ownership, and this is not land suitable for wild camping. The authority is not therefore in a position to directly permit wild camping.
· Approximately 71% of the land area is in private ownership. The NPA advises enquirers that they must have landowners’ consent. This is the advice given on our website and on our advisory leaflet “Enjoy your Visit”.
· 10.4% of the land area in the SnowdoniaNational Park is in National Trust ownership. Official NT policy is that true wild camping – above the mountain wall, or 450’ contour, single tent, for one night – is acceptable, provided that Mountaineering Council of Scotland Good Practice Guidance is followed. In practice, we are aware that large/organised groups can be a problem, and advise people who enquire that they should speak to the NT about their intentions.
· It is worth noting that there is a difference between true wild camping – which should leave no trace and by definition therefore pose no problem – and organised groups visiting popular sites, which can and does result in litter, pollution and loss of amenity and sense of place. This is a problem in some very popular “honey pot” areas, particularly in the north of the Park.
No mention of confiscating kit or of whether the powers reside with wardens to do that. National Park rangers in the UK don’t have the same police-like authority that their counterparts in the US are given, far as I know. Thankfully they don;’t carry guns either!
I have emailed other National Parks on the same subject and most replies are along roughly the same lines.
In some areas the Commons Act apparently allows some wild camping though Leave No Trace practices should be followed at all times.
One National Park ranger told me that on very rare occasions landowners/farmers have asked rangers to help them move on unwelcome campers but this was usually in relation to roadside campers of the kind that no-one really wants littering the fields and verges.
I’ll email Barbara again and alert her to your comment about confiscation of gear and see if she might even post here.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:09 amRichard
Are you still around?
Can you let me have the location where you met this warden and, if you have it, his/her name? Barbara at the park has offered to look into this further.
Might be best of you emailed me the details rather than post them here.
September 18th, 2008 at 6:45 amjohn (at) outdoorsmanning (dot) com
Thank you for this post, the article you linked to was very interesting. It is a shame that it’s the minority of visitors to the wild that ruin it for the rest of us by not knowing how to behave and what the correct procedures are when they get there.
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May 23rd, 2010 at 10:21 amA few years ago a friend and I were walking towards the Bois de Boulogne in Paris. We were a tad perturbed when a Gendarmerie van stopped just in front of us and armed police jumped out ordering us into the van. They took us to an area of the woods and told us we could camp there.
The next morning we were woken at 6am by a commotion and then a tap tap tap on the tent pole. We opened the tent door to find a large group of police passing through the camp tapping on tent poles with their weapons. I’ve never seen a site clear so quickly. It seems that at that time (OK about 30 years ago) it was normal practice for the Paris police to allow people to camp in an area of the Bois de Boulogne but wanted it clear before the rush hour started. What you don’t see can’t really harm you.
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July 12th, 2010 at 7:11 pmWild camping in Scotland could be banned after anti-social behaviour damages environment
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1294079/Wild-camping-banned-Scotland.html#ixzz0u8Kj2saP
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